Harrow set to lose two police stations and 17 police officers, announces Boris Johnson

Pinner Police Station has been earmarked for closure

Pinner Police Station has been earmarked for closure

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Two Harrow police stations have been earmarked for closure in plans published by the Mayor of London.

Boris Johnson today published his draft police and crime plan in which he lays out the future of the capital’s policing.

The plan proposes the closure of Pinner Police Station in Bridge Street and the police counter at the Civic Centre in Station Road.

If the plan is put into action Harrow will also end up with 17 fewer police officers than it had in 2010.

The proposals also affect Safer Neighbourhood Teams.

Currently each SNT has three PCSOs, two PCs and one sergeant.

Under the proposed plans each SNT would only have one PC and a “named sergeant”.

London Assembly Member for Brent and Harrow, Navin Shah AM, said: "This plan confirms our worst fears.

“We already know that London has lost more than 2,000 police officers in the past two years, but this plan confirms that the majority of London’s boroughs will have fewer police officers than in 2010.

“Combined with the closure of 65 police front counters and the loss of nearly half of London’s PCSOs, this will lead to a smaller police presence in our streets.''

He added: "I totally condemn the proposed closure of Pinner Police Station and Civic Centre facility.

“It is an act of vandalism to close police stations in local areas. It is vital that residents have access to local police stations, so I’m not surprised that local community members strongly oppose the closure of their police stations.

“Harrow will be losing 17 police officers and to make matters worse, the Mayor’s proposed plan details how the Mayor will strip out our local Safer Neighbourhood Teams which are vital in fighting crime in London.”

 

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6:00pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Cllr Husain Akhtar says...

Navin is absolutely right about a smaller police presence in our streets! In Canons ward the Safer Neighbourhood panel is defunct for many months arguing that what is the point of having meetings for setting/ monitoring the ward priorities if there are not adequate police resources to implement the priority.
‘Currently each SNT has three PCSOs, two PCs and one sergeant’ – this is not so in Canons or Stanmore Park wards!
Navin was quite right to challenge the London Mayor when he asked:
“The Chairman of Canons Park Ward Safer Neighbourhoods Panel (SNT) wrote to the Met Commissioner months ago expressing concerns about the local SNT and is still waiting for a response. Can you give me a date when the Commissioner will be sending a response” Question No: 4334 / 2012
Navin is absolutely right about a smaller police presence in our streets! In Canons ward the Safer Neighbourhood panel is defunct for many months arguing that what is the point of having meetings for setting/ monitoring the ward priorities if there are not adequate police resources to implement the priority. ‘Currently each SNT has three PCSOs, two PCs and one sergeant’ – this is not so in Canons or Stanmore Park wards! Navin was quite right to challenge the London Mayor when he asked: “The Chairman of Canons Park Ward Safer Neighbourhoods Panel (SNT) wrote to the Met Commissioner months ago expressing concerns about the local SNT and is still waiting for a response. Can you give me a date when the Commissioner will be sending a response” Question No: 4334 / 2012 Cllr Husain Akhtar
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6:37pm Wed 9 Jan 13

JMPrits says...

Where do you get your information from? 3 PCSO's, 2 Pc's & 1 Sgt. For the last 6 months at least Pinner and Headstone North have had no PC's at all. Now Pinner South which leaves 3 wards next to each other without any PC's at all. When they do get any they keep being posted to Wealdstone or South Harrow. Add to this the small amount of officers on the response teams it a pretty poor show.
Where do you get your information from? 3 PCSO's, 2 Pc's & 1 Sgt. For the last 6 months at least Pinner and Headstone North have had no PC's at all. Now Pinner South which leaves 3 wards next to each other without any PC's at all. When they do get any they keep being posted to Wealdstone or South Harrow. Add to this the small amount of officers on the response teams it a pretty poor show. JMPrits
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6:56pm Wed 9 Jan 13

jackdaw says...

There is a meeting at the Civic Centre tomorrow (Thursday 10th January) at 5.30 pm.

Stephen Greenhalgh, the deputy mayor for policing and crime, will chair the meeting. So I would suggest questions are asked to find out more about this situation.

I hope that enough people will come along and let Mr Greenhalgh see that Harrow is not a borough to be trifled with! The meeting will start and end before most people arrive home from work!

The one hour allowed for the meeting is not enough time for policing in Harrow to be discussed.

It will not be a true consultation with any depth but just a box ticking exercise to say that Stephen Greenhalgh had visited Harrow and spoken to residents. Will he take any notice at all about what residents have to say. I feel Harrow taxpayers will not get value for money from this visit.

You only have to read the pages of the Harrow Times to be aware of residents' concerns and a brief visit from Stephen Greenhalgh would seem to be cheating residents of their chance to make their views and questions known.

It seems this is a shabby charade which is being paid for by Harrow taxpayers.
There is a meeting at the Civic Centre tomorrow (Thursday 10th January) at 5.30 pm. Stephen Greenhalgh, the deputy mayor for policing and crime, will chair the meeting. So I would suggest questions are asked to find out more about this situation. I hope that enough people will come along and let Mr Greenhalgh see that Harrow is not a borough to be trifled with! The meeting will start and end before most people arrive home from work! The one hour allowed for the meeting is not enough time for policing in Harrow to be discussed. It will not be a true consultation with any depth but just a box ticking exercise to say that Stephen Greenhalgh had visited Harrow and spoken to residents. Will he take any notice at all about what residents have to say. I feel Harrow taxpayers will not get value for money from this visit. You only have to read the pages of the Harrow Times to be aware of residents' concerns and a brief visit from Stephen Greenhalgh would seem to be cheating residents of their chance to make their views and questions known. It seems this is a shabby charade which is being paid for by Harrow taxpayers. jackdaw
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7:52pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Cllr Husain Akhtar says...

Well said jackdaw!
Such is the level of interest in Harrow and respect for an elected representative, that Mr Greenhalgh didn’t even acknowledge my following open letter to him, which he did receive:
“Open letter to Stephen Greenhalgh, deputy mayor for policing
28 December 2012

Dear Mr Greenhalgh

I understand that MOPAC’s touring show is coming to Harrow for one hour on 10 January 2013.
I glean significant local anxiety about the nature and shortness of this event which the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime brands as ‘consultation’!
Would one hour provide adequate opportunities for healthy discussion and Q&A, especially at a time of serious local concerns which include?
(a) these MOPAC sessions, mostly presentations, are experimenting to see if the public finds this type of ‘police consultation’ adequate so that London boroughs under the London Community Policing Partnership could be told that they will no longer need the funding received in the past
(b) the future of the Community Engagement Groups (CPEGS), including in Harrow, after April 1 2013?
(c) the opportunities under the provisions of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and through the local initiatives by the community for the community for public to become meaningfully involved in local policing matters, have been systematically reduced or undermined
(d) that the dramatic fall in police numbers in Harrow is most likely to adversely affect Harrow residents – for example, in Canons ward, the local safer neighbourhood panel has suspended all panel meetings for many months because the agreed ward priorities could not be carried out due to the shortage of police officers - similar concerns exist elsewhere in the borough
(e) that crime rose by more than ten per cent in Harrow this autumn, according to the latest Metropolitan Police figures http://www.harrowtim
es.co.uk/news/101289
98.Crime_is_on_the_i
ncrease_in_Harrow/#c
ommentsList
I’m copying in B&H assembly member Cllr Navin Shah for his help and support in these substantial policing matters.
I’m also copying in the following in the first instance:
Leader of the Harrow Council Cllr Idaikkadar
Harrow East/ West MPs
London Mayor Boris Johnson
Past and present chairs of the HPCCG
Chair of the Canons safer neighbourhood panel
local newspapers
Regards
Councillor Husain Akhtar”
Well said jackdaw! Such is the level of interest in Harrow and respect for an elected representative, that Mr Greenhalgh didn’t even acknowledge my following open letter to him, which he did receive: “Open letter to Stephen Greenhalgh, deputy mayor for policing 28 December 2012 Dear Mr Greenhalgh I understand that MOPAC’s touring show is coming to Harrow for one hour on 10 January 2013. I glean significant local anxiety about the nature and shortness of this event which the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime brands as ‘consultation’! Would one hour provide adequate opportunities for healthy discussion and Q&A, especially at a time of serious local concerns which include? (a) these MOPAC sessions, mostly presentations, are experimenting to see if the public finds this type of ‘police consultation’ adequate so that London boroughs under the London Community Policing Partnership could be told that they will no longer need the funding received in the past (b) the future of the Community Engagement Groups (CPEGS), including in Harrow, after April 1 2013? (c) the opportunities under the provisions of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and through the local initiatives by the community for the community for public to become meaningfully involved in local policing matters, have been systematically reduced or undermined (d) that the dramatic fall in police numbers in Harrow is most likely to adversely affect Harrow residents – for example, in Canons ward, the local safer neighbourhood panel has suspended all panel meetings for many months because the agreed ward priorities could not be carried out due to the shortage of police officers - similar concerns exist elsewhere in the borough (e) that crime rose by more than ten per cent in Harrow this autumn, according to the latest Metropolitan Police figures http://www.harrowtim es.co.uk/news/101289 98.Crime_is_on_the_i ncrease_in_Harrow/#c ommentsList I’m copying in B&H assembly member Cllr Navin Shah for his help and support in these substantial policing matters. I’m also copying in the following in the first instance: Leader of the Harrow Council Cllr Idaikkadar Harrow East/ West MPs London Mayor Boris Johnson Past and present chairs of the HPCCG Chair of the Canons safer neighbourhood panel local newspapers Regards Councillor Husain Akhtar” Cllr Husain Akhtar
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11:23pm Wed 9 Jan 13

surfnutt says...

As per usual too much arguing and talking, The police do not protect us they are there after the event to take witness statements its not their fault its the Goverments what we all need to do is protect ourselves by whatever means it takes
As per usual too much arguing and talking, The police do not protect us they are there after the event to take witness statements its not their fault its the Goverments what we all need to do is protect ourselves by whatever means it takes surfnutt
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12:01am Thu 10 Jan 13

SeaBee says...

"Where do you get your information from? 3 PCSO's, 2 Pc's & 1 Sgt. For the last 6 months at least Pinner and Headstone North have had no PC's at all." (JM Prits)

What has happened to crime levels over the last six months in Pinner and Headstone North?
"Where do you get your information from? 3 PCSO's, 2 Pc's & 1 Sgt. For the last 6 months at least Pinner and Headstone North have had no PC's at all." (JM Prits) What has happened to crime levels over the last six months in Pinner and Headstone North? SeaBee
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8:43am Thu 10 Jan 13

JMPrits says...

Reply to SeaBee, Funny enough they have gone up. Burglary and thefts from motor vehicles. Also Headstone North now seems to be getting drug and ASB problems along Pinner Road and behind the shops. No surprise there then. Senior officers will tell us that crime is lower than elsewhere, which is why they deploy officers elsewhere, but then again how many of them actually live here.
Reply to SeaBee, Funny enough they have gone up. Burglary and thefts from motor vehicles. Also Headstone North now seems to be getting drug and ASB problems along Pinner Road and behind the shops. No surprise there then. Senior officers will tell us that crime is lower than elsewhere, which is why they deploy officers elsewhere, but then again how many of them actually live here. JMPrits
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9:36am Thu 10 Jan 13

jackdaw says...

The crux of the problem is not where resources are allocated but that there are not enough resources in the borough to deal with crime in the entire borough.

All the wards are competing for resources and feeling that they are individually getting a raw deal but the real elephant in the room is that there are not enough resources available and this is before the cuts come into effect.

It must be very hard for Harrow police officers who I am sure want to do their jobs well to deal with the lack of resources and the mounting public criticism.

Let us hope that Stephen Greenhalgh
shows some respect to both Harrow's residents and the local police force by reconsidering the cuts in Harrow.

Let us also hope he doffs his cap to those hardworking, altrustic volunteers that have manned Pinner police station and kept it open. It must be very dispiriting for them to hear this news.

Well done the Pinner volunteers for giving their time freely to try and remedy a problem that paid officials seem unable to sort out.
The crux of the problem is not where resources are allocated but that there are not enough resources in the borough to deal with crime in the entire borough. All the wards are competing for resources and feeling that they are individually getting a raw deal but the real elephant in the room is that there are not enough resources available and this is before the cuts come into effect. It must be very hard for Harrow police officers who I am sure want to do their jobs well to deal with the lack of resources and the mounting public criticism. Let us hope that Stephen Greenhalgh shows some respect to both Harrow's residents and the local police force by reconsidering the cuts in Harrow. Let us also hope he doffs his cap to those hardworking, altrustic volunteers that have manned Pinner police station and kept it open. It must be very dispiriting for them to hear this news. Well done the Pinner volunteers for giving their time freely to try and remedy a problem that paid officials seem unable to sort out. jackdaw
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9:37am Thu 10 Jan 13

jackdaw says...

The crux of the problem is not where resources are allocated but that there are not enough resources in the borough to deal with crime in the entire borough.

All the wards are competing for resources and feeling that they are individually getting a raw deal but the real elephant in the room is that there are not enough resources available and this is before the cuts come into effect.

It must be very hard for Harrow police officers who I am sure want to do their jobs well to deal with the lack of resources and the mounting public criticism.

Let us hope that Stephen Greenhalgh
shows some respect to both Harrow's residents and the local police force by reconsidering the cuts in Harrow.

Let us also hope he doffs his cap to those hardworking, altrustic volunteers that have manned Pinner police station and kept it open. It must be very dispiriting for them to hear this news.

Well done the Pinner volunteers for giving their time freely to try and remedy a problem that paid officials seem unable to sort out.
The crux of the problem is not where resources are allocated but that there are not enough resources in the borough to deal with crime in the entire borough. All the wards are competing for resources and feeling that they are individually getting a raw deal but the real elephant in the room is that there are not enough resources available and this is before the cuts come into effect. It must be very hard for Harrow police officers who I am sure want to do their jobs well to deal with the lack of resources and the mounting public criticism. Let us hope that Stephen Greenhalgh shows some respect to both Harrow's residents and the local police force by reconsidering the cuts in Harrow. Let us also hope he doffs his cap to those hardworking, altrustic volunteers that have manned Pinner police station and kept it open. It must be very dispiriting for them to hear this news. Well done the Pinner volunteers for giving their time freely to try and remedy a problem that paid officials seem unable to sort out. jackdaw
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5:25pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Jeremy Zeid says...

At last night's MOPAC Meeting, Cllr Navin Shah spouted on about how no police stations will close and how he will "fight it all the way".

Let me remind you waht happened in 2001, I have the pictures to prove it.

The two LABOUR MPs, Thomas and McNulty were going to close EVERY Police Station in Harrow East and most in West, it's on record.

Who was the London Mayor at the time who sat back, said and did nothing? None other than LABOUR Mayor Ken Livingstone.....

And who was running or was that, ruining the Council at the time? Well what a surprise, it was LABOUR, who BACKED their government and the MPs, Thomas and McNulty. Most vociferous in support was........... navin Shah, who has not just done a U-Turn, but gone into a terminal spin.

Cllr Phil O'Dell REFUSED to sign the petition to save Wealdstone Nick.

Who ran the campaign against the closures, Harrow Conservatives, I have the pictures of the campaign on file.

I know Mogadon-Man Shah cannot resist droning on and on and on and on, about the "cuts", but he was the one that almost bankrupted Harrow as his bestest buddies Tony Blair and Smiley Brown did to the rest of the country.

LABOUR were cutting police stations and numbers at a time of PLENTY, the Coalition are wrestling with that legacy while trying to keep things running when there is no money in the kitty, compliments of, you've guessed it, LABOUR.

They are truly SHAMELESS.
At last night's MOPAC Meeting, Cllr Navin Shah spouted on about how no police stations will close and how he will "fight it all the way". Let me remind you waht happened in 2001, I have the pictures to prove it. The two LABOUR MPs, Thomas and McNulty were going to close EVERY Police Station in Harrow East and most in West, it's on record. Who was the London Mayor at the time who sat back, said and did nothing? None other than LABOUR Mayor Ken Livingstone..... And who was running or was that, ruining the Council at the time? Well what a surprise, it was LABOUR, who BACKED their government and the MPs, Thomas and McNulty. Most vociferous in support was........... navin Shah, who has not just done a U-Turn, but gone into a terminal spin. Cllr Phil O'Dell REFUSED to sign the petition to save Wealdstone Nick. Who ran the campaign against the closures, Harrow Conservatives, I have the pictures of the campaign on file. I know Mogadon-Man Shah cannot resist droning on and on and on and on, about the "cuts", but he was the one that almost bankrupted Harrow as his bestest buddies Tony Blair and Smiley Brown did to the rest of the country. LABOUR were cutting police stations and numbers at a time of PLENTY, the Coalition are wrestling with that legacy while trying to keep things running when there is no money in the kitty, compliments of, you've guessed it, LABOUR. They are truly SHAMELESS. Jeremy Zeid
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9:23am Sat 12 Jan 13

DimSum says...

The two LABOUR MPs, Thomas and McNulty were going to close EVERY Police Station in Harrow East and most in West, it's on record.


Harrow ! Chucle !
The two LABOUR MPs, Thomas and McNulty were going to close EVERY Police Station in Harrow East and most in West, it's on record. Harrow ! Chucle ! DimSum
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12:52pm Mon 14 Jan 13

harrow1 says...

It seems criminal that we lose 17 police officers which is approx the same number guarding Aba Qatada in Harrow. Outside 'his' house there are always at least 2-3 police / MI5 officers sitting in a car watching him 24/7 with another team around the corner. Basically we have taken 17 police officers off the street to sit outside a terrorist's house (sorry I mean free house we pay for). Brilliant.
It seems criminal that we lose 17 police officers which is approx the same number guarding Aba Qatada in Harrow. Outside 'his' house there are always at least 2-3 police / MI5 officers sitting in a car watching him 24/7 with another team around the corner. Basically we have taken 17 police officers off the street to sit outside a terrorist's house (sorry I mean free house we pay for). Brilliant. harrow1
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