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Howard Studley – BNP

1:22pm Thursday 22nd November 2007

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HOWARD STUDLEY wants to see Harrow residents paying less council tax, and is keen to paint his party as supporting low tax.

The British National Party candidate, who has lived in Harrow all his life, thinks crime is a problem in Harrow.

He said: "There are more than a thousand crimes committed in Harrow every month, it's not one of the worst boroughs in London but the crime rate is high and none of the other parties are dealing with it."

Mr Studley, 62, who is a retired engineer, thinks bin collections are not good enough in the borough. He wants all recycling and waste collected every week.

He is also keen to dispel what he calls a misconception about the British National Party.

He said: "We offer local people a choice. With all the other political parties, you can put a cigarette paper between them, but we give people a real option.

"Anyone that cares about their neighbourhood should vote BNP."


Your Say YourHarrow Times

Will, harrow says...
6:43pm Sat 24 Nov 07

Harrow has the second lowest crime rate in London, and it contributes only 2 per cent of London’s crime rate. Between December 2004 and December 2005, overall crime in Harrow went down by 8 per cent.


Anon, Stanmore says...
6:38pm Thu 29 Nov 07

Will wrote:
Harrow has the second lowest crime rate in London, and it contributes only 2 per cent of London’s crime rate. Between December 2004 and December 2005, overall crime in Harrow went down by 8 per cent.

Glad I'm not the only one who was thinking that.

Also, there is no misconception about the BNP at all. However much they deny it they are what they are and that is definately not a party that cares for all it's neighbours indiscriminately as Mr Studley is trying to persuade us.

Steven, Canons Park says...
10:01pm Thu 29 Nov 07

"but the crime rate is high and none of the other parties are dealing with it."

I guess Howard Studley thinks if the BNP can repatriate Black Brits, the crime rate will go down.

Andrew Shaw, Harrow says...
9:51pm Sun 2 Dec 07

there's quite a good resource here for challenging the candidates ... http://votewise.co.u
k/r.php?c=00AQFZ

ANDREW, EDGWARE says...
10:41pm Wed 5 Dec 07

i work for harrow council and close with the police, the police tell me crime is bad in harrow ok not as bad as some bouroughs in london but still bad. So by saying no its not just becouse you dont want to agree with the BNP is terrible dont turn a blind eye to crime and other problems just becouse you dont like the party willing to do somthing about it. People are still ignorent the BNP are not the NF the BNP have jewish councilers hardly nazi stock plus a large sikh and hindu surport

John Edwards, Harrow says...
4:07pm Fri 7 Dec 07

We can take little notice of crime figures.Recent revelations showed that 2 million crimes were not recorded just to make things look better.
One has only to read the paper daily to see that crimes of violence are at a very high level.
Having read the BNP manifesto on their website I find myself more and more attracted to them.
They are certainly a very different party than the one certain parts of the media like to portray.
Maybe there is hope for this country yet.

Will, Harrow says...
4:41pm Sat 8 Dec 07

**Warning** The above two messages may be from the BNP's Cyberactivism team pretending to be ordinary local people who find they are siding with the BNP.

"Andrew":- I'm surprised a Harrow Council worker who works with the Police would risk going online and expressing positive views about a racist party. I notice the BNP boast about their one Jewish Councillor and their supposed Hindu and Sikh support but not Black or Muslim members or that having members from Hindu, Sikh and Jewish backgrounds upset their racist support. You say crime is not as bad as in some boroughs in London. No it’s not as bad as almost all boroughs’ in London

"John Edwards":- Fear of crime is much higher than the actual crime rate in Harrow and the BNP are playing on that. Violent crime (including Gun crime, homicide and violence against the person) has in fact dropped in Harrow. Total crime has also dropped over all in Harrow. I would take localised crime statistics over one person’s interpretation of what they read in the fear mongering national presses any day.

When, in a related thread, I started confronting the BNP with facts (something they clearly struggle with) concerning their history of anti-Semitism, Islamphobia and their embarrassing record in local government they lied and then refused to answer my questions.

“Multiculturalism is and has been a failure” – Howard Studley

He says this while standing in one of Britain’s most successfully multicultural area’s. It shows a total lack of respect to the people of Harrow and their history of tolerance. Everyone in Harrow should be proud of our record of racial harmony.

“the BNP is opposed to wasting money on Divali and other such festivals” – Howard Studley

As all of Harrow’s ethnically diverse population pay council tax we all deserve our elected council to respect and support our traditional festivals.

“I can assure you that neither Nick Griffin nor the BNP deny the Holocaust.” - Howard Studley

Mr Griffin was convicted in our very own Harrow Crown Court of incitement to racial hated by denying the Holocaust (or the Holohoax as he described it)

Mr Studley appears to be both out of touch and a liar!

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
5:55pm Sat 8 Dec 07

Will- what is so wrong with surporting a sertain party yes i do surport the BNP as i belive the last time i looked it was a free country you know a democracy funny how people seem to forget that when you surport the BNP as for the surposed sihk and hindu who do you think stood up in court for mr Griffin. as for the anti-semitism i have not heard any for the people that matter in the BNP except that retard who has writen that book of course it happened but i know a few labour surporters that dont like jews or blacks but you dont hear people saying labour surporters are nazi's there have been two labour councilers convicted of child molestng dose that make them all child molesters no ofcoues not and i stand to be corrected its ithere a tory mp or counciler who got a european immigrant teen age girl locked her in his spare room an pimped her out to paying custermers and useing the money to pay his off his house but dose that make all torys pimps no ofcourse not . feel free to replie to verify these claims i will give you the web pages there on and no these web sites dont have any BNP conection. but i will agree on one thing you said ISLAMPHOBIA to right iv never heard a sikh or hindu or jew or any other religion wanting to cut off the heads of any one for somthig as trivial as a cartoon drawing or blow inersent people up on public trans port. last thing do you like the new harrow logo as harrow once again submitted and gave in to changing the coat of arms as it afended the muslims as it had a cristian monk on itas i had to deal with some of the paper work. so yes i dont like muslims becouse they dont like us look at history every country thats turned to islam they had to or be put to the sword as it says in the quran.

Stephen, Colindale says...
6:09pm Sat 8 Dec 07

Actually Will my 11 year old son goes to School in Canons last week he was attacked by 3 boys from an ethnic group a month ago he was mugged by a 15 year old from an ethnic group this is the truth just face it my number is 07877 421 524

John, Canons Park says...
6:09pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Stephen, you say your son was attacked by someone from "an ethnic group". Sad though this is, I can't really imagine anyone who does not belong to "an ethnic group", in this world of ours.

Also Will is right, the BNP has an active cyberactivism team, sometimes they even make inflammatory statements when pretending to be a Muslim person.

Stephen, Colindale says...
6:52pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Your missing the point John I am not talking about the World and other countries I dont need to go to im talking about my country and the Canons ward I was being polite by saying ethnic group if you want me to be more specific it was a black gang my son told me once he finaly got on the bus home he witnessed another assult on a white school girl by another black gang now this just is not on your be telling us that school boy that got stabbed to death at the London academy is a figment of our immagination next wake up John.

Will, Harrow says...
8:01pm Sun 9 Dec 07

What’s nice is the revealing of people true colours in their response.

Stephen, Colindale:- What you have done is present anecdotal evidence in the face of statistics. By your reasoning the fact that lightening has stuck twice in the same place would mean that lighting is striking everyway. By the same principle, as I have not recently been a victim of crime there must be no crime. You reveal your prejudice when you feel it necessary to focus on the perpetrator’s ethnicity. When I was last the victim of a crime my attacker was White and British,what does it prove?


ANDREW, EDGWARE:-

“so yes i dont like muslims becouse they dont like us” (sic)

And there we have it. BNP supporter hates Muslims on the basis of gross generalisation. Basically what you are saying is that you hate ALL Muslims because of the behaviour of fanatics. Perhaps we should hate all the Irish because of the actions of the IRA. The BNP are a Party of Prejudice, it makes no difference if you change who you hate from Jewish people to Black people to Asian People and now to Muslims, it’s still prejudice. The BNP just need somebody to hate and vilify.

I fully accept that other parties have had and no doubt still have unsavoury or criminal members both in the past and the present. The BNP is a VERY small party with around 6000 members and about 60 councillors in say comparison to the Tories with around 250000 members and nearly 8000 councillors. Yet the BNP still manage to have a noticeably bad record in local government, lying, racism and incompetence, and high profile members with a history of criminality and connections to Neo Nazi groups in comparison to Tories.

Your right this is a free county so why can’t the majority of British Muslims be allowed to get on with their life’s and not be judged by the actions of a small minority.





Stephen, Colindale says...
9:41pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Actualy WILL the school boy who was killed was black if you really cared and took notice of what was going on in your community you would have known this the fact is BNP would be tough on crime who ever the perpetrators
Andrew have you ever been to a mental insitution?

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
9:56pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Will i see you are making it sound worse that it is by putting words in that wernt said, i don't recall saying i hate muslims i just don't like muslims as i did say they don't like us they expect us to change and comply to them but god forbid ask them to change there ways here is just on small reason we all saw the efects of militant islam on 7/7 when HOME GROWN MUSLIMS terrorists carried out brutal murder on are capital city slaughtering 52 INNOCENT people and ijuring hundreds more. Nealy half of all muslims admit wanting to see sharia law FORCED into britain (everybody look up sharia law except Will as he don't care about british people). secondly a young british soldier on special leave for bravery from iraq was beaten to death by a group of MUSLIMS did'nt see that on the news at TEN did we not even in the news papers what about the elderly man asking some MUSLIM YOUTHS to keep the noise down so they stabbed him to death did'nt see that on the news ither nor in the paper must not forget the white child prostitusion rings up north white girls aged from 12 and up only i might add run by MUSLIMS documented by channel 4 but i guess people like you Will don't care about children being terrified into having forced sex with MUSLIM men and yes it was only MUSLIM men the documentry said so not me. Plus a minority of MUSLIMS are radical do live in a cave with no tv did'nt you see how may MUSLIMS were demonstrating in all major citys with plaqards with slogans like SLAY THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM, EUROPE YOU WILL PAY DEMOLITION IS ON ITS WAY, BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM, BUTCHER THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM. plus many more. funny you should menchion the IRA i notice the labour and tories will talk to them and no one protests them we all remember there track record don't recall the BNP kiddnapping murdering blowin are citys but i do remember some people blowing up are city let me remind you Will it happened on 7/7/05 but i will not all MUSLIMS ARE terrorists but all the terrorists were MUSLIM. Finnaly a small bit of history for you the only none white peoples to join the nazis in there thousands were the MUSLIMS and they only joined the WAFFEN SS as HIMMLER said they have a good hatred of the jews and other enemys of the german people. but no i still don't hate the MUSLIMS I HATE THE ONES THAT HATE US and that is alot i just don't want them here in britian yes its a free country but its only free becouse BRITISH people fought a world war to keep it that way they did;nt fight and die so people can come over here from other countries to change are way of life so why don't they go to ISLAMIC countries to live they don't have to change anything there i guess it must be the lovely weather don't you think Will as i can't be the state benifits houseing free health care ect. but unlike you i don't want to tell people what to do or how to vote who to like i think people are smarter then the like to belive so all i will say is people go to the BNP site and look for yourself you think its wrong and hate fill leave and don't like the party but judge for yourself don't listen to me or my fine friend Will

Stephen, Colindale says...
10:29pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Apologies Andrew it looked like that garbage came from you but now I think it Will who needs to see the schrink! Look will I have muslim neighbours we get on well always smile always say hello being a true Nationalist does not mean your against anybody it means your pro-British or pro-which ever country you live in it means your own Nationality is your family and other Nationalities are your freinds ever heard the saying family come first well tell me what is wrong with that.

Stephen, Colindale says...
10:47pm Sun 9 Dec 07

Just to add to that Will are we not allowed to look after the interests of our own people in our own country?
Or do we need people like you to tell us how we should think maybe Will if people could express their views or fears with out being labelled Maybe Will people like you telling people how they should think could have something to do with a large percentage of our nation on prozac Will your Libral views are 30 years out of date GET A LIFE!

june, stanmore says...
5:23pm Mon 10 Dec 07

with what i see things are getting out of hand here this is just a local ward vote, but will it make a difference to our future? ok the bnp are showing their hand, so let them, see what they have to offer our area, they might surprise us, ok better the devil you know but is it time for a change? anyway it's your vote use it wisely you might loose your chance to vote in the future as we are all media led and subconsciously brained wash through TV Radio and Papers. read all the blerb before making your mind up on that X.

Will, Harrow says...
8:32pm Mon 10 Dec 07

Ok let’s get this straight:-

I was taking Andrew, Edgware comments out of context when he said:

“so yes i dont like muslims becouse they dont like us” (sic)

I got the impression that he hated Muslims where as in fact he just doesn’t like them…that’s all of them…because he believes that they (as one?) don’t like us.

From that survey he misquoted he also failed to note that of the Muslims surveyed “91 per cent still say they feel loyal to Britain” Loyal to Britain but they don’t like the British; is that right?

As for your lazy and often fictitious suggestions of the brutality of Islam I think a history lesson would do the British or Christianity no favours. The Catholics and the Nazis? Horrors of the British Empire, torture in Iraq, sexual tourism in the third world. You let you prejudice blind you to the truth.

I apologise Andrew when I suggest you were part of the Cyberactivism team. I doubt even they would let you go off and start spout you clearly unhinged conspiracy theories. How proud the BNP must be to have you as a supporter.


Stephen, Colindale

I do read the Local Papers and what I see is the usual level of crime anyhere in this country and that Harrow’s diversity has no bearing on this. My liberalism maybe 30 years out of date but then the BNP’s obsession with race, as reflected in their website selling books on Eugenics, is around 70’s years out of date. Perhaps better suited to 30’s Germany?

The BNP’s tough on crime stance is what every party states but reducing crime is more complicated. Economic factors have a far greater bearing on crime than deterrents. Also illiteracy plays a large role (half of prisoners are below the standard of an 11 year old) and yet the BNP policy is simply to ensure every child is literate as if nobody else has ever thought to do that.

Reintroducing Corporal and Capital Punishment seems very much like Sharia Law to me. Irony?

Crime is ever present, the young always seen as out of control (mods, rockers, teddy boys all carried and used knifes) but fear and anecdotal evidence don’t help. Yes one boy was stabbed but the point I was making is that in itself it proves nothing. The bigger picture reflects that crime in Harrow is dropping and perhaps rather than talking this achievement we should praise the work of the Police and the Community.

June, Stanmore

I agree that people should read about the issues and make their own mind up. I would like to think I’ve entered into the spirit of democracy. It’s difficult when the BNP persist in using dodgy evidence and sometimes outright lies.

I feel that the BNP politics are wrong because they come from a place of prejudice. Nothing I read in response or found out through researching my arguments (something their supporters failed to do) has suggested otherwise.

Hating Muslims , treating Jews as ‘foreign people’ , Neo-Nazi festivals, lies and more lies. It important for democracy that we air this because we can’t just trust what the candidate’s blurb says we have to look at the bigger picture.

The BNP claim to love their county and yet constantly misleads it citizens.

Stephen, Colindale says...
10:29pm Mon 10 Dec 07

Will Your argument is falling apart you keep going over the same ground firstly I have never heard of such a book called eugenics being sold by the BNP yes they do sell books about st George and books with historic events like the battle of Hastings you can see the catalogue of books on the BNP website their trading name is excalaber books on British culture or are we not allowed to have a culture or any thing to be proud of also Will the BNP do have good policys for working class people like me who live on low incomes such as £15,000 tax threshhold also an immediate withdraw from the EU we struggle enough making ends meet we dont need to be under mined and undercut especially when it was our loved ones risked life and limb during 2 world wars to give us a future if any body really wants to see how bad crime is just type in the fallen list on google and look at the sites that come up or the rogues gallery on a site called iamaenglishman then you will know the truth

Dennis, Brent says...
10:47pm Mon 10 Dec 07

june wrote:
with what i see things are getting out of hand here this is just a local ward vote, but will it make a difference to our future? ok the bnp are showing their hand, so let them, see what they have to offer our area, they might surprise us, ok better the devil you know but is it time for a change? anyway it's your vote use it wisely you might loose your chance to vote in the future as we are all media led and subconsciously brained wash through TV Radio and Papers. read all the blerb before making your mind up on that X.
I agree with June, let's look at all parties standing & make up our own minds.
Does William not have any comments for the other Candidates? Or are the rest all the same?

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
1:39am Tue 11 Dec 07

why William you dont seem to be that popular nealy as unpopular as what you think the BNP are. I would just like to ask dose anyone swallow that 91% of MUSLIMS are loyal to BRITAIN i would like to ask are friend William to go to any mosque and say TO ALL THE FAITHFULL i hope your loyalty is with BRITAIN Not ISLAM i belive he may change his mind. William i shall give you an offer i will denounce the BNP in public with any news paper of your choice and i will make out a chque for £100,000 to any charity you wish i do have this money you can contact the media if you wish. But you have to do one thing that to go to an ISLAMIC COUNTRY OF MY CHOICE and sell 100 cristian bibles and jewish holy scrols and ask them to convert to one or other and i want a video diary of it dont forget the country of my choice not yours i'll even pay for the flight. Don't worry William there not all extremists only the religous ones but befor you pack your bags i sujest you chq out a web page called masada2000.org there are some video clips of what the peacefull islamists do to anyone trying that sort of thing i will tell you just two 1 they get a long pole 18ft sharpen one end force it up you bum by about 2ft then hoist you up so you slide down till the pointy end comes out somwhere round your neck or sholders. 2 thy could stone you to death but thay do have rules so thay are sivelised stones can only be a sertan sise not to big but not to small then thay start throwing but only legs first then thay work up once your legs are smashed and you cant run away thay have a short break then thay start again body arms then head its all true you can see it thay video it just like most people video a day out at the zoo go have a look. Yes we were crule and harsh HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO ie crusades and dark ages ISLAM still is well aint broke dont fix it and you are doing it again William where did i mentchion conspiracy seems funny how us BNP suporters don't say you said things you have not. Like to add June to true media led.Yes William there is sex tourism in third world countries and its very wrong as a lot of the girls are children men from all over the world go to these places it sounds like you think only white europen men go to these places (i did say sounds like so dont go saying i said you said). Heres one for you William, a wile ago the media reported on the hidden world in which MUSLIM men are grooming young white girls for sex after ZULFQAR HUSSAIN 46 and QAISER NAVEED 32 hd been jailed for CHILD ABUSE OFFENCES. both men pleaded guilty at preston crown court to abduction, sexual activity with a child and the supply of drugs the trial amid growing concerns at the attitudes of some MUSLIM men towards white girls whitch campaingers for women claim few people wish to address parents have commplained that in parts of the country with large MUSLIM communities white girls as young as 12 are being targeted for sex by older MUSLIM men yet the authorities are unwilling to act becouse of the fears of being labelled RACIST. i guess these sex tourists cant aford to travel so thay start there own child sex slaves what you think William. As for what you said to STEPHEN his attitude is 1930's germany you show a surprising simmerlarity to nazi germany than anyone i bet you want to ban the BNP nazi germany banned all opposing parties hounding BNP members and surporters out of there jobs nazi germany no undesirables ie jews in there opinion could have jobs. So i sugest you learn you history becouse i will correct you every time on military history especialy WW11 and british military history

Jessica Gooch, Harrow says...
7:25am Tue 11 Dec 07

Do the people of Harrow want a racist representing them? Why vote for a party whose manifesto would DENY you the right to vote in future?
Some views are simply too abhorrent to be allowed the platform of freedom of speech.
Did you know for example, that the man who manages the BNP's website is a South African racist who tried to blow up innocent children? Did you know that the BNP counts a scary number of convicted criminals in its membership, some for benefit fraud, others for assault? Some were COUNCILLORS. Still not convinced? Read this link about the BNP's hall of shamed councillors, and weep (cut and paste carefully as Harrow Times offers no facility for posting in web format):
http://www.zen26144.
zen.co.uk/articles/c
rapcouncillors.htm

Stephen, Colindale says...
12:12pm Tue 11 Dec 07

Jessica I have never heared of anybody in the BNP blowing innocent people up in South Africa however I have heared of a well known terrorist from South Africa Mad KEN HAS PUT HIS STATUE in paliament.
Back to your tedious arguement Jessica on racism being half Spanish my self I have been called all kinds of names w#g w#p De##o ect now these same idiots now give me hassle for being in the BNP. I HAVE MET A 100 OR SO MEMBERS OF THE BNP AND THEY ARE THE MOST POLITE,CIVILISED LAW ABIDING PEOPLE I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

Stephen, Northampton says...
2:35pm Tue 11 Dec 07

It's good to read that Harrow has a low crime rate. Before I moved away I was mugged by a gang of four negro men. My sister, who still lives in Harrow, has been mugged twice by asians and once by negroes. None have ever been caught.
No doubt the Police have higher priorities, like speeding offences, or dealing with people's feelings being hurt by non PC comments.

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
3:22pm Tue 11 Dec 07

jessica i have to agree with Stephen after your comment of a SOUTH AFRICAN who tryed to blow up inncent children iv had a good look on the web to find evedence of this i could not find any im not saying its not there somwere but i can't find it feel free to tell me were and i will look and if its there i will confurm it for you. I did go to a few hate sites yes theres a few BNP but there seemed to be far more of other factions. I can and will say i have been to several BNP meetings where everyone left as there were a bunch of real skinheads there ie fred perry shirts big boots bleached jeans and braces they were foul they came to the meeting when they actuly belong to a group called combat 18 there not the BNP we don't want them they just turn up once in a wile so even my group of friends leave becouse they don't like us ither. As for RACIST party i dissagree we have never said we are better as a race we just want better treatment from are own govmt we dont want to kill them or even hert them we just dont want any more for at the rate other peoples are entering britian and the rate they are breading we will be the minority in are own country by 2060. What makes you think the BNP's manifesto would DENY you the right to vote as We are known and pride areselves on freedom of speech and the right to choice i belive thats comunist you are thinking of you menchioned benefit fraud you realy want to go there you may not know i work for the council and it is my section that deals with fraud and we are in contact fraud sections throughout the country so trust me you realy don't want to go down the fraud avenue

Will, Harrow says...
9:10pm Tue 11 Dec 07

Stephen, Colindale

If the BNP don’t stock books on Eugenics why do they stock a book called “Shockley on Eugenics and Race” (the clues in the title) http://shop.bnp.org.
uk//product_info.php
?cPath=27_52&product
s_id=188

Would you like to apologise to everyone? Then could you state whether you were mistaken or just a liar. I expect a response Stephen.

Dennis, Brent

I’d much prefer to keeping talking about the BNP’s history of Anti-Semitism and repeated lies as the BNP Cyberactivism team keeping refusing to answer. The other three parties are the same in as far as their leaders have never called the Holocaust the ‘Holohoax’

ANDREW EDGWARE

Umm I suggest using paragraphs.

I think somewhere in your ranting you attack Muslims for sexually grooming children. My response is; Gary Glitter, The priest and vicars of Britain, Ian Huntley, Ian Brady, Roy Whiting, need I go on.

People do bad stuff the world over, what of it?

No I wouldn’t ban the BNP I’d rather let people like you Andrew show them up for what they are.

Stephen, Northampton

We’ve been over this before, what does your statement reflect? Nobodies saying there is no crime is Harrow, only that it is the second lowest in London and crime is falling.

We’ve had a couple stories on this thread about people from ethnic minorities involved in crime in Harrow. What are people trying to say? I myself have been a victim of crime twice, both by white people and both outside of harrow. What does this prove? Harrow is crime free and I should fear white people outside of it?

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE

If the BNP are not the racists, criminals and just plain nutters as their members will argue they are not, then why do the attract so many members who are?

What attracts Holocaust denier Nick Griffin to the Party? Joseph Owens a man with a conviction for sending razor blades to Jewish people. Mark Collet, who sympathises with Hitler and calls homosexuals “aids monkeys”. Scott McLean who attends Nazi rock festivals. Warren Bennett; convicted hooligan. Colin Smith, ‘former’ Neo Nazi. Robert Cottage, admitted possessing explosives. Brian Turner, wife beater. Luke Smith, football hooligan and the list goes of a decade of criminals, racists and nutters.

What is it about the BNP that attract these kind of characters?

Stephen, Colindale says...
10:09pm Tue 11 Dec 07

Will as I mentioned the BNP are the party of the future you can never move forward if you always focus on the past we already know the 3 main partys have nothing to offer time to move on.Heres food for thought if God or nature put each nation in their own country would multicultulism be undoing Gods handy work or undoing the natual evolution of world.Or do you think the immigrants should be here to be expoited by the parents of the rich kids of the UAF. I noticed it was only the BNP who made a fuss about the unessary re- experimenting of house hold products which we have used for decades on animals due to new Eu Laws but i spose you dont care about things like that of long as you are easing your concience by focusing your hatred towards us.

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
11:23am Wed 12 Dec 07

William yes you are right i shoud use paragraphs. But when talking to the likes of you i should use crayons as well. I see theres no taking up of my offer William whys that then. I do agree with you we have had plenty of child abusers and we all know very sad to say there will be more as they get court. Thing is William how do we deal with them i know who the BNP would deal with them especialy the likes of IAN BRADY, IAN HUNTLEY, lets just say we the tax payer wont be paying for them to stay in prison which runs into hundreds of thousands may even be millions. PEOPLE DO BAD STUFF THE WORLD OVER, WHAT OF IT? thats not a good comment how about trying to do somthing about it starting with are own country as we are the ones that have to live here (we lay in the bed we make. As for people like me showing what the BNP are realy like yes may be i dont want more people from other countries flooding here i want the indigenous people of this county to be put first. Whats wrong with that William i have never said i want to hert, harm, kill, any one i just want to stop more peoples of foreign countries comming to this county and send back the ones that have no valid reason to be here back. well if thats a bad thing please tell my why. once again no paragraphs but then i have somthing called dyslexia but do fell the need to critersise if you wish as being BNP i give you the freedom of choice and to free speech.My offer still stands if you want to go to an ISLAMIC country of MY CHOICE or are you far to busy working for Matthew Hopkins and Serchlight

Will, Harrow says...
9:57pm Wed 12 Dec 07

Election Tomorrow

I see know one can explain why the BNP attract so many nutters (right up to the present)?

Stephen, Colindale

What a shame you refused to apologised. Thats the second time the BNP have called me a liar and then when proven wrong didn’t apologise.

Aren’t the BNP adult enough to admit they are wrong or do they lie so often there is no point.

“Heres food for thought if God or nature put each nation in their own country would multicultulism be undoing Gods handy work or undoing the natural evolution of world.”

Who said God put anyone anywhere? Nations are an artificial human concept. Britain was created 1603, Germany in 1871, Italy in 1848 the list goes on. If you want to discuss science then surely inbreeding (in the wider scientific sense) is bad as it leads to poor health, for example the problems experienced by Amish. Genetic diversity is good for humans.

ANDREW EDGWARE

Firstly my name is Will, its sound very condescending when you call me William. You’re not talking to a child; you should be able to tell this by the way I’m not prone to make generalisations about 1 Billion people and that I back up my arguments with facts.

I’m also dyslexic and have at no point corrected your spelling; a BNP member did that to me on a similar thread. I have used the word ‘sic’ when quoting to show I’m not altering people’s words.

I’m still not sure how being dyslexic would effect pressing enter every couple of sentences so it isn’t just a one big block of writing? If it does then I’m adult enough to say I sorry.

“indigenous people” does that include the Jewish Community who have lived here for 500 years, Or all people whose great grandparent came from Ireland to build our railway system? What about the ancestors of slaves? The Chinese have been Britain for two hundred years. Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings and the Normans have all settled here. So maybe it’s the Celts you’re talking about?

No I’m not from Searchlight, although this whole experience has made me want to be more politically active. I’m just a guy from Harrow who thinks the BNP are racists and liars. What in these threads disproves this, the generalisations, the misrepresentations or the inability to back up an argument with credible evidence?

I won’t be going to an Islamic Country, I have far too much work to being doing here exposing the lies and prejudice of BNP supporters. Can you not see the irony in similarities between Extremist Islam and the BNP: Prejudice, self righteousness, ignorance, obsessed with cultural purity, desire for corporal and capital punishment and humourless when criticised.

BNP Members:- Why are you so ignorant of history, so willing to lie, so full of hatred and have so little empathy. I don’t need an answer just for you to consider if your anger is a reflection of your own personal problems and disappoint in life.

Election tomorrow so lets see what happens.



Stephen, Colindale says...
10:56pm Wed 12 Dec 07

WRONG AGAIN you really haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Firstly we already know that there is european blood in the British that is why Spaniards,french,Iri


sh ect are allowed to join the party as long as they our settling in this country and our loyal to the British it is mass economic immigration of Europeans that we oppose.
Secondly Jewish people are also Considered indegenous as they have assimulated well to British culture an have not interfered with Our traditions.
Lastly I give you my personal reason why I do not want Mosques in our country FROM THE INFORMATION I HAVE GATHERED THE PROPHET MOHAMED MARRIED A 6 YEAR OLD NAMED AIYESHA AGAINST HER FATHER PLEAS SHE WAS 9 WHEN HE COSUMMATED THE MARRIAGE I personaly would not allow worship of Mohhamed in this country due to this reason.

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
1:13am Thu 13 Dec 07

OK Will to answer your question why do so many nutters join the BNP that answer cant be answered as thay dont you just think thay do as thay dont agree with you. You say you back your arguments with facts so do we i guess it depends on what facts afect us and for me i dont like the fact that my country is being taken over by forigners so here are some facts that make people like me want the BNP. immigration FACT yealy net immigration is now over 300,000. FACT there are more than 600,000 illegal immigrants living in britain, 1% of the entire population. FACT that dose not includ over 40,000 asylum seekers who pour in every year FACT immigration and their descendants now account for 83% of the futur population groth in the uk. by 2060 then we will be the minority. All this affects us it affects are jobs,our taxes,our NHS,our countryside,our way of life. Here's a bit more why i want the BNP ASYLUM seekers are intitaled to and we aint this goes for OAP's as well that dont get this, rent,council tax,water rates,insurance,elec

tric bills. would all be picked up by by the tax payer. They get sent right to the front of the houseing queue,thay would replace that old cooker and put in full central heating.They are entitaled to a 20" colour tv and have there licence fee payed every year, They even get there windows cleaned every 12 weeks. These are just a few of the benifits whitch are set out in the secret revised joint tenancy agreement that is signed betwen new labour home office and every landlord providing accommodation fo asylum seekers. So Will can you see why so many people want to vot BNP OK YOU DONT LIKE THEM. But lots do why els do you think labour and the torys ect are complaining so loudley for you dont hear them complaining about the NF,BOM,WHITE KNIGHTS OF ST GEORGE,C18, plus all the rest. i know you now we all know the BNP wont win in the canons ward but they will get more surport than people think there are a lot of JEWISH and as im one im shure ther will be more. Aren you lucky you did'nt call me a nazi red ken made that mistake a wile back.Will there are several types of dyslexia one type even sees numbers insted of letters im not picking holes in you for that im just saying. Will we all know the real reason you wont take up my offer thay would kill you and you know it its nothing to do with your work and i dont blame you if had said ok id have booked you into a mental insitute. Every one has a right to choose i choose to surport the BNP you choose what i would call limp wristed liberal. i will write to you nicely and i will take on bord what you say if you look up take on bord why we want the BNP AS I HAVE A GENUINE FEER OF THE MUSLIM. as they have sworn to wipe out all jews i remember some one els sayong that they nealy did and ironicly adolf hitler saved us belive it or not.

Stephen, Colindale says...
11:02am Thu 13 Dec 07

Look Andrew I'm not sure why you have even mentioned Adolf Hitler your either not 100 percent on your facts or you are from the Left.
BRITISH NATIONALISM OF 2007 HAS ABSOULUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH 1930'S NATIONAL SOCIALISM and the type of people who would still support National Socialism are the gutless type that stand there with a pint of beer in their hand spouting rubbish they have read in the gutter press and thinking they are doing us a favour well their not doing us a favour we dont want useless parasites like that in our organisation!

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
2:33pm Thu 13 Dec 07

Stephen all was trying to say was the reason we won the war was due to that deranged man hitler ie opening up a second front against russia ignoring and sacking his generals telling several of his armys to stand to the last and not to retreat regroup prime example stalingrad even the british high command pulled the plug on a hit on hitler by sniper at his summer retreat as thay said he is doing more damage to the german war machine. Just think if that head case did'nt interfear and left it to the likes of feild mashal Eric von manstine or field mashal Fedor von bock or even feild marshal Erwin Rommel. i think you may agree we would have lost and if we lost thay would not have stopped untill thay had acheved their gole would not agree. sorry if it sounded diffrent. so all i was saying was hitler was an idiot so much of an idiot he lost the war for them good job would'nt you say. Ofcourse BRITISH NATIONALISM OF 2007 HAS ABSOULUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH 1930'S NATIONAL SOCIALISM. i do hope that explains it better

ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
2:41pm Thu 13 Dec 07

Sorry nealy forgot the idiot also declaired war on the GIANT INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE AMERICA. He did'nt have to as the americans only declaired war on japan on germany. see what i meen he wernt that smart was he

Stephen, Colindale says...
5:03pm Thu 13 Dec 07

Any way if any body would like to Join our local BNP group and get involved contact us barnet@bnp.org.uk or
Harrow@bnp.org.uk this is my last post all the best for now.

Will, Harrow says...
9:34pm Thu 13 Dec 07

ANDREW EDGWARE

I thought the BNP states that there are 2 million illegal immigrants (Manifesto 2007). Are you saying your party lied or that the FACT is wrong? It has to be one or the other.

“Every one has a right to choose i choose to surport the BNP you choose what i would call limp wristed liberal.”

Overtone of Homophobia anyone?

Andrew, I think you need to take good hard look at where your hatred comes from. FACT

Stephen, Colindale

“BRITISH NATIONALISM OF 2007 HAS ABSOULUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH 1930'S NATIONAL SOCIALISM”

Unless you count that the BNP policies can be described as Nationalist Socialist or The use of a religious minority to create a common enemy, hatred of homosexuality, quest for racial and cultural purity, the need to hark back to a mythical golden age, hatred of the left wing and immigration. But there are in no way any similarities…other than that Nazi uniform the BNP founder used to wear….and his love of Mein Kampf…but nothing else…

….

Oh well it’s very nearly over now, so lets see where the dice fall. It’s been fun.

“There must be no impatience, no barbarity, no insolence, no undue pressure. If we want to cultivate a true spirit of democracy, we cannot afford to be intolerant. Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause.” - Mahatma Gandhi


ANDREW EDGWARE, says...
12:03am Fri 14 Dec 07

Will i will look into that to be fair to me i did read an old paper to get those facts. It may be 2 million by now at the rate they are flooding in. Im sorry Will i did'nt meen to hit a nerve with the overtone of homophobia. Once again you are useing the word hatred i told you i dont hat anyone. The BNP dont hate gay's i think its they don't want it to be taught to 6-7year olds in schools. and yes its nealy over the BNP may not win but lets see if they get enuff votes to surprise the othere parties. I BET WILL YOU ARE A BNP SUPORTER REALY you just like debate. Good bye every one sorry for the bad grammar.

Will, Harrow says...
7:29pm Fri 14 Dec 07

Husain Akhtar (Con) - 1,208 votes

Richard Harrod (Lab) – 389 votes

Anne Diamond (Lib Dem) - 296 votes

Marcello Borgese (Ind) 182 votes

Howard Studley (BNP) 56 votes

The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously. - HUBERT HUMPHREY

Jessica, Harrow says...
11:26am Sat 15 Dec 07

Stephen of Colindale and Andrew of Edgware - let me put you right about BNP activists and terrorism. You say "I have never heard of anybody in the BNP blowing innocent people up in South Africa" and "iv had a good look on the web to find evedence of this i could not find any". The evidence is all over the place. How about this:
"A white supremacist who planted a bomb at a mixed-race school in South Africa as part of a campaign of terror designed to destabilise the post-apartheid government has become a leading figure in the British National party's online operation.
Lambertus Nieuwhof, who now lives in Hereford, was given a suspended sentence after he and two other men tried to bomb the Calvary church school in Nelspruit in 1992. The bomb, which was made from 25kg of stolen explosives, failed to go off."

You can read the rest at http://politics.guar

dian.co.uk/otherpart

ies/story/0,,2047071

,00.html

Jacob, Stanmore says...
2:02pm Sat 15 Dec 07

Stephen and Andrew, I guess the people of Canons ward have decided what they think of your party. To be honest I dont know what the BNP was ever hoping to gain from this by-election, I mean Canons ward is in very affluent suburbia, where a majority of people are either Jewish or Asian.

john, MK says...
11:15pm Mon 17 Dec 07

I remember 'Arra was a lovely place when I grew up there in the 50's. When I came back from the army in 1869 it was already changing for the worse - still is, unfortunately!

Paul Cuffs, says...
7:24am Wed 23 Jan 08

www.lancasteruaf.blo
gspot.com

www.stopthebnp.com

www.searchlightmagaz
ine.com

www.thebnp.org

www.hopenothate.org.
uk

www.voiceofreason.or
g.uk/blog

www.kirkunity.blogsp
ot.com

www.antifa.org.uk

Dennis, Colindale says...
1:41am Tue 5 Feb 08

Steven wrote:
"but the crime rate is high and none of the other parties are dealing with it." I guess Howard Studley thinks if the BNP can repatriate Black Brits, the crime rate will go down.
The BNP’s most successful area is Barking & Dagenham, where we have 12 councillors and form the official opposition to the decrepit Labour party, and the official figures from the Metropolitan Police show that ‘hate crimes’ have FALLEN in the borough.

The number of “racist crimes” in Barking & Dagenham in 2007 was 354, down from 392 in 2006.

Howard has never made a comment about Quote: "Black Brits" unquote; being repatriated.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

Dennis, Colindale says...
1:43am Tue 5 Feb 08

Please visit:
www.bnp.org.uk
http://london.bnp.or
g.uk
If your want more information please email:
harrow @ bnp.org.uk
or
barnet @ bnp.org.uk

Then decide for yourself.

dave, says...
4:20pm Mon 11 Feb 08

lancasteruaf.blogspo

t.com

youtube.com/watch?v=

HxsT9geBp2E

stopthebnp.com

searchlightmagazine.

com

thebnp.org

hopenothate.org.uk

voiceofreason.org.uk

/blog

kirkunity.blogspot.c

om

antifa.org.uk

norfolkunity.blogspo

t.com

Dennis, Colindale says...
9:43pm Wed 13 Feb 08

Please visit:
www.bnp.org.uk
http://london.bnp.or

g.uk
If your want more information please email:
harrow @ bnp.org.uk
or
barnet @ bnp.org.uk

Then decide for yourself.

nqa, Rayners lane says...
9:35pm Sat 23 Feb 08

I hate BNP.. racist c***s. Read their policies

Aneez, London says...
4:42pm Sun 24 Feb 08

The BNP is a non-sectarian party and moderate white Muslims who oppose Sharia law and Islamic extremism can join. Just read the BNP website and there is absolutely nothing saying that Muslims are prohibited from being members of the BNP.


Will3070, Harrow says...
12:03pm Mon 24 Mar 08

But White Muslims wouldn't be allowed a place to worship:-

“The BNP has no objection to Muslims having their own places of worship – providing they are in Muslim countries and not in Britain”. – South London BNP

And the BNP party leader Nick Griffin called Islam a "wicked, vicious faith".

So maybe there are a few things that might prevent a “White Muslim” joining the BNP.

Aneez, Voting for Richard Barnbrook says...
7:15pm Fri 4 Apr 08

Will3070

I am a white Muslim and have been a fully paid up member of the BNP since the days when John Tyndall was leader. It is estimated that there are somwhere between 10 and 20 Muslims in the BNP.

White Muslims practically have no place to worship other than at home because they are unwelcome in most mosques run by Asians for Asians.

NG can say what he likes. His popularity is waning and a strong parallel is forming between him and Tony Blair.

Comments are closed on this article.

BNP candidate Mr Studley received 56 votes. Howard Studley

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