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Councillor: Cow killing wrong

7:18am Friday 14th December 2007

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THE sudden execution of a sacred cow in Letchmore Heath has caused outrage among hundreds of Hindus, who have described it as a calamity with significant consequences.

Councillor Anjana Patel, portfolio holder for community and cultural services at Harrow Council, said Gangotri, a 13-year-old Belgian Blue and Jersey Cross should not have been killed.

Cllr Patel explained the religious objections of the monks based on a Hindu religious text called the Bhagavad Gita.

She said: "I know that it is against what it says in the Bhagavad Gita. The cow is one of the very holy animals.

"We consider the cow to be like our mother and thats the reason for not putting it down. For me, I don't think they should have done it."

The killing of Gangotri, which took place at Bhaktivedanta Manor yesterday has been described as "religious sacrilege of the worst kind" by the temple's president.

But the RSPCA have defended the decision to put the animal down, saying that it was suffering greatly after being crippled by a bull in September last year.

Gangotri, unable to stand since the accident, was killed with a fatal dose of barbiturate by a vet.

The RSPCA were assisted by police after being granted a warrant legally allowing them to enter the temple and kill the animal.

Stuart Coyle, Head farm manager at the temple, said the unexpected killing was an act of betrayal and deception, and said RSPCA officers pushed aside monks and sneaked into the enclosure.

He said a meeting on Wednesday night suggested there would be time to appeal against the decision and there no reason to suspect an early morning operation.

He said: "We were under the impression we would have some time, it's extremely shocking that they came in at 7.45am to kill our cow.

"The chief RSPCA officer stopped me from going in. They said they wanted to examine her and instead gave her a lethal injection.

"It's like they've come to my house and killed my own child in front of me. I've been farm manager since 1993. The cow has been my life. She was not in old age and was determined to live. It is disgusting."

RSPCA Superintendent Tim Wass admitted the temple was not told about the killing in advance, as this would have made it difficult to carry out the operation.

He added: "It was all conducted in an open, honest and frank manner. There was never any suggestion of us creeping around or deceiving anyone. Waiting for the legal system to tackle a difficult theological conundrum was not an option.

"Three vets, one of them from The Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons said it was in a heavy state of suffering, it had multiple sores and pressure points, its respiratory rate was three times what it should be. It had no chance of ever standing in the future."

He described the day as both the easiest and most difficult day of his career, insisting that there was no doubt that ending the animal's suffering was the best action.

He said a farmer responsible for an animal with half as many health problems as Gangotri would be open to prosecution and exceptions should not be made on religious grounds.

Mr Coyle disagreed, saying: "There is no way people should be allowed to just kill animals this way. She couldn't walk but lived a happy life.

"If you walked past her you would have thought she was just lying down. She was never a threat to anyone. The RSPCA don't believe in nursing animals.

"They are a dispenser of death. This is not just a Hindu issue, it is a calamity that will have serious implications."

Temple president Gauri Das, said: "This is shocking and duplicitous behaviour, we have been deceived by those who had given us their word."

What do you think of the decision? Leave your comments below.



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Jay B, says...
12:00pm Fri 14 Dec 07

First of all, is this Coyle fellow a 'Farm Manager', or is he actually just another hare krishna and giving the paper his birth name so as to come off more media friendly?

Secondly, just how many animals are those hare krishnas keeping up there in agony that should have been put down?

How many years of suffering do those poor animals have to endure? This is atrocious, I only hope the RSPCA get a warrant next time that permits them to shut down the place so they can perform a full-site inspection, I want every square foot of the grounds and the buildings checked, and I want a team of detectives to look for unauthorised alterations to the building that could be used for illegal activities.


Naraharirupa, Radlett says...
12:02am Sat 15 Dec 07

I was working that time when cow Gangotri had leg problems and every week i could see difference in cows Gangotris health. she was getting better and better last time on okt 2007 Gangotri was on her legs for few minutes and she was trying to stand up more and more every time that was big progress and am sure that after 3-4 months cow Gangotri will walk again.
but something terrible happen - RSPCA just come and kill the cow Gangotri and why they kill cow who was getting better every day ?
Naraharirupadas

Pravin, Harrow says...
12:10am Sat 15 Dec 07

To Jay B:
I take it for granted that you are also concerned at the plight of all those poor creatures in battery hen farms and pumped full of antibiotics (not forgetting all those male chicks that are killed when 1 day old because they of course can’t lay eggs), the salmon that are kept in cages and fed pink dye so their flesh looks appetising. The pigs and cows reared for a good bacon butty or a mouth watering beefburger. And what of those poor creatures that are dispatched without even a dubious electric shock to the head in order to comply with religious requirements? If I were a cow – I know where I would want to be.....

gio, says...
12:27am Sat 15 Dec 07

hindus respect all living entity but cow is spetial for them,,if you go to tesco how much food you can fing made just by milk,,and what cow takes just grass...also Hindus use cow dung and urine for medicine and it is very efective,now it is became popular aurveda treatment,,,so cow product used there,,also cow dung used to make fire,,and only cow product used in rituals,,,so it is very importent to undertsand why cow is treated like this, we should not accept as dogmatic way,,there are behind deep reasons.

killing means to be killed,,,this is law of nature. now you decide if you wish to killl but remembar do not be unhappy when you find yourself similar situation of your next life



Harry, 593-257 says...
6:41am Sat 15 Dec 07

To Jay B: Get your facts right. "Hare Krishna" is a greeting or praise of Krishna, not the name of a person. The temple has never stopped anyone visiting to have a look at the animals. Your baseless diatribe is verging on illegal itself - inciting religious hatred. And I dare you to say the same in relation to a muslim group. Thought not. Now if ignorance could be the basis of euthanasia...

Rasa, Radlett UK says...
1:20pm Sat 15 Dec 07

This cow was able to move on her own, she was eating and performing all bodily functions normally. She was being groomed every day by an appointed carer, and received such treatment as even humans don't get. She was always alert whenever someone walked by her, and had relationships. Her condition was a couple of bed sores from not being strong enough to stand up. When I had a major operation, I also couldn't walk on my own for quite some time, I lost a lot of weight, was in pain and my muscles got weak- maybe the RSPCA should've come after me with an injection too. can we not simply look at the fact that this cow was not nearly in the state that the rspca is claiming, that they needlessly killed her.

Susan, Windermere, Cumbria says...
1:23pm Sat 15 Dec 07

This is shocking, the RSPCA was not set up for this. This animal was being cared for better than our elderly in their care homes. The RSPCA are so arrogant that they think they know what is best, you don't have a monopoly on caring RSPCA!

Rowan, Newcastle says...
2:35pm Sat 15 Dec 07

Black uniforms and Euthanasia, never a good mix.

george, herts says...
4:01pm Sat 15 Dec 07

for everyone

news is that RSPCA HAVE NO RIGHTTO ORDER TO KILL ANIMAL,,PLEASE CHECK WEB - WWW.the-shg.org
boys will be in trouble soon.

Henrietta, Harrow says...
4:53pm Sat 15 Dec 07

This brings very difficult credibility issues for the RSPCA. They portray themselves as animal welfare supporters and yet they themselves have untold numbers of animals under their belt that they have killed. Welfare surely means you look after not that you kill because you cant be bothered to invest the time and money into looking after. How many animals have the RSPCA killed that could have been nursed into good health. Do they even record such things.

frances, hertfordshire says...
9:48pm Sat 15 Dec 07

If you read the FACTS, a vet euthanized the animal. In fact, 3 vets saw the cow and established that she was suffering and needed to be euthanized. Are we going to liken vets to nazis as well? Why bother to send them to university for 5-6 years if we don't believe what they say? The experts were doing their job. The layman hasn't studied physiology and anatomy and don't know how much that poor creature was suffering. Of course the cow looked fine - it's a prey animal. They have to hide illness. How could a farm manager know more about bovine health than a specialist vet from the Royal College?

Gillian, herts says...
10:51pm today Sat 15 Dec 07

I have little respect for 'experts' or people 'doing their job' anymore. No doubt the nazis had their experts with their opinions too, and no doubt once they were shown the error of their ways they said they were only doing their job. As for government 'experts' and their FACTS we've seen only too often recently how reliable they are.
Institions such as the 'Royal' college also do not hold me in awe anymore. Sneaky, sly and devious Dr Death weasels in uniform.

Rowan, Newcastle says...
11:35pm Sat 15 Dec 07

I look at the world and I notice it's turning
While my guitar gently weeps
With every mistake we must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know how you were diverted
you were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
no one alerted you

King John, Harrow says...
9:49pm Tue 18 Dec 07

To Frances of Hertfordshire –
I quote from this news item:
“….RSPCA Superintendent Tim Wass admitted the temple was not told about the killing in advance, as this would have made it difficult to carry out the operation…”
So the vets in question would also seem to have learnt deception while at university for 5 or 6 years. I always had a lot of respect for the RSPCA but after this act of deception, I wouldn’t trust them near my animals if I had any.
Incredibly he added: "It was all conducted in an open, honest and frank manner. There was never any suggestion of us creeping around or deceiving anyone. Waiting for the legal system to tackle a difficult theological conundrum was not an option.”

Rasa, Radlett UK says...
10:46am Wed 19 Dec 07

I would also like to point out that the vets the RSPCA consulted are their own vets. Did they even ask the opinion of the temple's two vets that were caring for Gangotri long-term? Both the local vets caring for her were amazed at her incredible recovery and progress. The RSPCA is certainly duping the public with their so-called 'expert' opinions.

K Bhudia, Harrow says...
2:15pm Wed 26 Dec 07

Over reaction yet again from the Hindu community over the killing of a sacred cow. And now I read that the same people will protest at the RSPCA headquarters and initiate a religious ceremony at the Watford temple. And the leaders of this Hindu group have called the wider members of the Hindu community to withdraw its support for the RSPCA. This is a short-sighted attempt to gain media attention at what is at most a clash between religious beliefs and views and scientific fact and animal welfare. I’m not sure of all the facts but I will allow the RSPCA but put down an animal they believe was in great pain. And if the killing of Shambo was anything to go by then this would have only prolonged the animal’s pain and distress. I’ve seen much worse treatment of cows in India so please keep things in perspective. I am a Hindu but I don’t believe in keeping animals alive because the our beliefs say that you must not kill any living being even if it’s in dying pain.

Blind spot, Borehamwood says...
9:04pm Wed 26 Dec 07

One mans holy animal, another mans dinner. Hare Krishna please don't try and convert me in my England.

Jay Mistry, Watford says...
9:16pm Wed 26 Dec 07

To Jay B: I feel so sorry for people of low intelligence like your self. A person of your stature has no right to give any form of ill advice to any one since you are not yet a properly developed Human Being, let alone that, you are not yet even an animal.
Get your facts right before trying to make a point. So rudely you say 'Hare Krishnas', just show you do not know the basic that 'Hare Krishna' is a godly greeting. I wounder if you could even try to open you mouth had this been an animal associated to your country's beloved Muslims. It is just because we Hindus are of calmer nature and law abiding, but do not take us for granted, it will be a fatal mistake. When we are truly agitated, it will not be your ministers who have to go to Sudan to bow down to the Sudanese government, instead they will have to answer to Krishna is a very telling manner. Remember, Chris Patton, Conservative Minister, who opposed to a private rod for the temple, the next election he lost by a landslide majority. So, this is a message to every one, please do not take Hindus for granted, as much we look and sound polite and friendly, we are that vicious when we are un necessarily agitated or taken for a ride, this is some thing RSPCA are just about to find out. ALL GLORIES TO LORD KRISHNA.

Sonjoy, London says...
9:23pm Mon 31 Dec 07

The ISKCON community was tricked by the RSPCA,
Whatever they say; simply saying that "Telling the Krishna community would have made it difficult" is not good enough.
What they did was truly illegal and wrong. They have no special power to barge into private property and do whatever they feel right (their just a charity). Even if they had the support of police on their side. I mean for Krishna’s Sake, the police need a warrant to search people’s property and the manor is no different.
Firstly: Security personnel should have stopped them entering as a “breach of security” and confirmed exactly what they were here to do at this unexpected time.
The ISKCON community should have pushed the RSPCA/police out by force as they didn’t have a warrant to enter. (That’s perfectly legal)
Secondly: They have no right to enter temple grounds with poison in the first place. They should be taken to criminal court as this is an act of crime.
1) They entered private grounds illegally.
2) Did not notify their intension.
3) They carried poison on temple grounds: with intension of use.
4) And yet killed a holy animal: which is equivalent to stealing.
This is a crime for calling out loud. – They need to be taught a lesson because this is the second time they have undermined our Sanatan Dharma.

Sonjoy, london says...
9:31pm Mon 31 Dec 07

Jay B wrote:
First of all, is this Coyle fellow a 'Farm Manager', or is he actually just another hare krishna and giving the paper his birth name so as to come off more media friendly? Secondly, just how many animals are those hare krishnas keeping up there in agony that should have been put down? How many years of suffering do those poor animals have to endure? This is atrocious, I only hope the RSPCA get a warrant next time that permits them to shut down the place so they can perform a full-site inspection, I want every square foot of the grounds and the buildings checked, and I want a team of detectives to look for unauthorised alterations to the building that could be used for illegal activities.
Jay B: Have you actually been to the manor at all?

Maybe the RSPCA should give you a visit.

Sonjoy, london says...
9:36pm Mon 31 Dec 07

Blind spot wrote:
One mans holy animal, another mans dinner. Hare Krishna please don't try and convert me in my England.
"In My England"

Dood you need to learn your language properly!!!!

...post a comment to make a statement... and don't make a fool out of yourself.

Sonjoy, London says...
9:45pm Mon 31 Dec 07

frances wrote:
If you read the FACTS, a vet euthanized the animal. In fact, 3 vets saw the cow and established that she was suffering and needed to be euthanized. Are we going to liken vets to nazis as well? Why bother to send them to university for 5-6 years if we don't believe what they say? The experts were doing their job. The layman hasn't studied physiology and anatomy and don't know how much that poor creature was suffering. Of course the cow looked fine - it's a prey animal. They have to hide illness. How could a farm manager know more about bovine health than a specialist vet from the Royal College?
3 Vets, no really that doesn't mean jack S**T, they were from the same institute. When the first one nods the rest follow. They came with the intension to kill and they did. And kill they did illegally.

Sonjoy, london says...
9:48pm Mon 31 Dec 07

DEFRA says:

"The RSPCA cannot issue formal improvement notices under the Act. They do, and will continue to, issue their own informal ‘improvement notices’. These are not formal notices under the Act and have no power in law."

ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ILLEGAL

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